After a brief rest following my struggle up the 4 flights of stairs of the echoing university building that houses the Manchester Academy complex, the door swung open as a slim blonde welcomed me like any housewife opening the door to a welcome visitor. “Hey, how ya doin’….” in a soft semi Californian accent. The warm hand shake and concern that I was being made comfortable came with the offer “I can make you a cup of tea.” I declined and shared the bottle of sparkling mineral water that was already on the table, a reflection of the healthy rider of a reformed Brody Dalle.
The last time I had seen had seen her in the flesh she was (I’m sure she’d forgive me) a slightly overweight, dyed black haired punk, with mascara running down her face as she flung her guitar into the mosh pit of Reading Festival, some 10 years earlier. On the surface, the two were incomparable.
Brody Dalle is in the UK promoting her new album Dipoid Love, a short whistle stop tour of just a few dates. Apart from a one off performance this was the first series of concerts since her co-headlining tour of Australia with Nine Inch Nails and her other half, Josh Homme’s Queens Of The Stone Age.
So how did it go last night (in Glasgow)?
It was okay, it wasn’t great. The first show back is always rough. I’ve gone changing diapers to standing in front of a room of 800 people in the space of a few days. We were all jet lagged, it’s a little jarring and I have to kinda switch from one to the other. I was doing Mom stuff and I get on a plane and then “You’re on”, and I’ve gotta turn the switch.
How was Australia? Was it like going home?
It was incredible, yes it is [still home], Melbourne is so different, when I left 17 years ago Melbourne was about 1 million people, now it’s 5 million. All the places I used to go to when I was living there, they’re all gone. All my old haunts. My Mom left, she’s gone to Tasmania, so I don’t have that centre to go to any more so I feel a little lost there.
And touring with Josh ? Is it a case of ‘If you can’t beat them, join them’? He has a reputation of being a workaholic, or have you beaten that out of him now?
Yeah touring with Josh is awesome. He beat it out of himself, he wants to relax, the older he gets the more he retreats.
We’ve got a habit of labelling our rock stars, Riot Girl, Courtney 2, Bad ass musician…How would you label yourself now?
I think I’m pretty much an open book, I’m pretty honest. I don’t want to be compared to anyone. I wouldn’t compare myself to Courtney, if you put Courtney and me sitting here it would be like night and day. We have completely different ideology’s. Because we have blonde hair and we’re both in bands and we scream. I was definitely influenced by Kurt [Cobain] when I was a teenager, but I haven’t listened to Hole in fuckin’ years, I don’t wanna sound like her, I wanna sound like myself.
Who do you listen to now?
I really love (extended Lurrrrrve) Metronomy, I saw their show, Oh my god, it was fuckin incredible. I recently turned my daughter on to Siouxsie & The Banshee’s, she loves Siouxsie, she says “I want to meet her”.
There is always going to be the inevitable question about The Distillers, is it something you feel you’ve got to go back to or is it a closed book now, is that chapter gone?
I don’t think it’s a closed book, I just think the chapter is unwritten. I don’t ever want to say we won’t do something, because I did try to do something with them but it was just kind of lacking in lustre. It just felt old and there was nothing there. There’s nothing on the agenda right now.
The new album, you’ve obviously had a big hand in the production of it. Is it a more produced sound? Do you think it’s a more polished album from what you’ve done before?
No I really don’t. It sounds dirtier to me. When I think about Coral Fang, that’s over produced. Andy Wallace mixing it. What’s his name in New York [Howie Weinberg] doing the mastering, that was so over produced… crazy… something we weren’t used to. Six weeks we had to make that record ! Six fucking weeks, before that we made records in two weeks.
Is your past stuff a hindrance now? Would you prefer not to have to continually refer to it?
I understand why, No not at all. I think some people are a little too much over emotionally invested in it…some parts of my past, but no, I don’t mind you asking me about my old records at all.
What’s your favourite track off the new album?
Right now it’s ‘Parties for Prostitutes’ , just because we’ve started playing it live, it’s really fun.
I think you’re at your best when you’ve got a guitar in your hand.
Fuck Yeah !!! I felt lost with Spinerette, there was so many layers that we couldn’t recreate it live, so we had three guitar players, and then some of the stuff I couldn’t play and sing at the same time, so it was confusing. I just felt out of my element, but guitar is my…it’s my love.
Do your kids inspire your writing?
They don’t inspire my writing but I write about them or to them. They make me feel whole.
This is just a short visit, anything planned for later in the year?
Yeah we come back in August.
Any festivals?
Yeah I think it’s all festivals. Josh and I are playing all the same festivals so that we can be together and bring our kids out with us. The weather is good in August isn’t it?
Emily Kokal, of Warpaint, they’re the other end of the spectrum from what I’d expect from you. How did you come to be working with Emily? (vocals on ‘Meet The Foetus’)
We both live in LA, I love them [Warpaint], we partied one night a long time ago and I said I want to hang out more with those girls, and then our lives and our schedules, and them touring…it never seemed to work out. They’re awesome girls, they really are. I just saw them the other day at Coachella, I just love Emily’s voice, it’s fucking angelic. I needed a girl gang [for Dipoid Love] she just came into my mind. I really love the Bulgarian Women’s Voice Choir, have you ever watched any of that stuff? It’s going to blow your mind, and so I wanted to do something like that, although in the end we didn’t even come close. It’s [The Bulgarian State Radio Vocal Choir] so beautiful, it’ll make me cry.
You said of Spinerette, you said you had zero confidence at the time. Have you found the new Brody now?
It’s not the new Brody, I’m just in touch with myself again. Before I got pregnant with my daughter my band broke up, and I struggled with a meth addiction, there was just a lot of upheaval, that shit was going on with Nick Oliveri (former QOTSA), and then my former relationship (Tim Armstrong, frontman of Rancid) and my Dad died, it was brutal. I was like 50 lbs overweight, I didn’t have a band, I didn’t know who I was. I had Camille and my husband had to go on tour two weeks later, it was just jarring, it was intense.
It (post natal depression) lasted about four years, but I came out the other side and I made this record… With which the laughter and smile returned.
How is the voice holding up?
It’s really good, I thought I was getting sick, I was scared my glands were getting really swollen. I have nodes (on vocal chords), my doctor said to me you have three nodes, I asked “is that bad” he said well you’re not trying to be Christine Aguilera…
Has punk died now, has it lost its direction?
No way, it’s still the language of teenagers, that’s what they feel and they want and they see. It’s not going to die…that’s stupid.
What about an encore tonight?
I hate encore’s, I hate those. It’s funny because last night (Glasgow) we ended and walked off the stage and they went crazy, and I felt so guilty, so bad. It’s supposed to be a spontaneous thing and it’s become written in, it’s so cheesy, I’d rather just play longer. So I just say turn the lights on, let’s get off.
With that, the interview drew to a close as we resumed chatter about festivals and the August weather. I left content at having 20 minutes intense and honest conversation with someone who was at the epicentre of the punk movement during the early part of the noughties.
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Dreadful article. What’s her weight got to do with any of it?
And the housewife bit, Christ.
thanks for your comments Michael, always good to get feedback.
It was Brody herself who referred to juggling being a housewife and touring musician, and she who also referred to being 50 lbs overweight. I am merely reporting her comments.
Glad that you are taking an interest in the website
I’m sorry but you were referring to Brody at Reading in 2003, not when she gained 50lbs after having a baby. Let’s just get this straight. She WAS NOT overweight when she was in The Distillers. People like you in the media need to be really careful about what you say. She was very slim. Women reading this article will think ‘if someone who looks as good as Brody is labelled overweight where does that leave me?’
I’d also be interested to see if you would comment on another musician’s weight if they were a man?
Simon here (editor) –
In the interview Brody herself comments that she was 50 lbs overweight… ‘Before I got pregnant with my daughter’
I’m sure any writer would mention weight if the interviewee had brought up the conversation.
I would like to see a picture of YOUR body.
Shame on you … judging a woman after giving birth for beeing “overweight”.
How old are you ?? Twelve?
Simon here (editor). Afraid Chris isn’t available to reply so i will do so on his behalf.
Chris is not 12 and was not judging anyone on being overweight.
As pointed out in an earlier reply on this page he was merely referring to a comment she had made herself to being 50 lbs overweight.